VZ Senator: Somebody had to be the first!

[937CHAParticipant BrisbaneCV8 Monaro VS Ute View build HERE Member since: June 10, 2015 Posts: 6]

car is mint mate love it!

[JabaParticipant Perth, WAVZ Senator View build HERE Member since: February 18, 2015 Posts: 103]

Cheers bud

Unfortunately a couple of mates noticed a slight knocking / clunking coming from the rear end. Probably a driveshaft, so ill probably just replace both of them. If its the diff. Tru trac and 3.7’s come at me haha.

[KroozerParticipant Forbes, NSW91 VN SS View build HERE Member since: February 19, 2015 Posts: 336]

Put that pic up you posted on Facebook!

[SurfwagonParticipant HSV Z Senator LS2 View build HERE Member since: July 24, 2015 Posts: 25]

Hi Jaba

Car still looking good like always.

Ive just ordered a wavetrac centre for my diff, better than True trac in wet and on muddy tracks  I sometimes use, so will let you know how it goes.

BTW don’t forget there are 2 different true tracs the lower strength Eaton and the high strength Harrop versions

[JabaParticipant Perth, WAVZ Senator View build HERE Member since: February 18, 2015 Posts: 103]

Cheers Surfwagon !

I am aware of the difference between Eaton / Harrop, not sure ill need the stronger Harrop version. Depends on how far i go with this thing. Keen to see how you go with the wavetrac, I thought they were only made to suit VE’s

If anyone on here owns a VY GTS or anything with the 6 piston AP racing brakes, and has a set of old 362mm front rotors lying around. I’d love to grab them off you. Looking into making custom brackets for these brembos, allowing virtually any wheels to be used, including standard HSV / Holden wheels, as the range of wheels that will fit over the VE style rotrs + calipers is very limited.

 

[KroozerParticipant Forbes, NSW91 VN SS View build HERE Member since: February 19, 2015 Posts: 336]

Jaba wrote:

Looking into making custom brackets for these brembos, allowing virtually any wheels to be used, including standard HSV / Holden wheels, as the range of wheels that will fit over the VE style rotrs + calipers is very limited.

‘Ears Pricked’ 

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Cars looking mint, anything new lately??

[JabaParticipant Perth, WAVZ Senator View build HERE Member since: February 18, 2015 Posts: 103]

Nothing new as yet mate, home on Thursday. Will look at doing a bit of engine bay tidy up. Still in two minds whether to spend big on this and build it into something I really want. Or cut my loses and get something else.

[KroozerParticipant Forbes, NSW91 VN SS View build HERE Member since: February 19, 2015 Posts: 336]

Spend big and build it into something mint!!! 

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Kroozer wrote:

Spend big and build it into something mint!!!

Yep, I’m with this

[cava454Moderator 93 VR BT1 View build HERE Member since: February 20, 2015 Posts: 2 390]

Build what you want not what u have

[JabaParticipant Perth, WAVZ Senator View build HERE Member since: February 18, 2015 Posts: 103]

So people, if I were to change the front rotor size from 355mm to 362mm. Would I have to move the caliper?

 

I know these calipers easily swallow a 370+ rotor on VEs and CTSVs, do you think the 3.5mm increase in diameter ( half each side so they will only go further out from the center of the hub 3-4mm ) will have a negative affect on the pad surface vs the rotor?

[JabaParticipant Perth, WAVZ Senator View build HERE Member since: February 18, 2015 Posts: 103]

So latest project with the senator is modifying the rear suspension.

I’m going to use VS lower control arms, to bring the hubs approx 40mm closer to the diff. This will allow for a lower offset wheel to be fitted ( more dish / concave ) as well as hopefully a tad more clearance inside too.

I’ll also convert the rear suspension to proper coilovers from gforce if that’s the next clearance issue when it comes to fitting wider wheels. I’ll only stop at the tubs, I don’t want to mini tub it. Everything needs to be bolt on / off.

Gforce coilovers.

I’ve grabbed a second hand VZ IRS cradle and picking up VS rear control arms tomorrow. So I can mock it up all off the car and if I need custom drive shafts making up I can drop the whole subframe off and have them made up easily and accurately.

First up was removing the VZ handbrake setup. Real easy, just twist the handbrake shoes off and disconnect the small spring. And then undo the two bolts holding the assembly on.

Cleaned everything up and painted it so it’s ready to go onto the VS arms.

Next up will be removing the axles and hats to remove the dust shield to put onto the VS arms.

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[SurfwagonParticipant HSV Z Senator LS2 View build HERE Member since: July 24, 2015 Posts: 25]

Interesting, what size tyres are you looking to run on the rear.

After all this work maybe a 275 or bigger for more traction, not the 245’s you ran before.

275 fit with the std suspension and right offset.

[JabaParticipant Perth, WAVZ Senator View build HERE Member since: February 18, 2015 Posts: 103]

Hoping for 275 at a minimum. As you said they definitely fit. I believe the first obstacle on a standard car when running wider wheels on the inside is they eventually hit the control arms. So hopefully I’ll be able to squeeze a bit more room using the VS items. 295 would be nice  :XD:

[hallyParticipant VY SS Ute, VF SSV Sedan View build HERE Member since: August 1, 2015 Posts: 17]

Very interested to see how your rear end comes together, been umming and ahhing for a while about how to proceed with the ass end of my ute.

 

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

I don’t know about a VZ but with a VR its all about getting the right offset/backspace.  I have 10″ rims on mine (stock IRS) with 275s but 295s will fit.  When I did mine it sort of fouled the control arm/innerguard/outer guard all at once.

[JabaParticipant Perth, WAVZ Senator View build HERE Member since: February 18, 2015 Posts: 103]

Same goes for the VT-VZ mate its all about the offset.

Have discovered a downside to using the VS control arms. You lose the adjustable toe rods.

I’m not overly dissapointed by it, it will just be like having a VT / VX S1 style rear end.

Down the track I may weld tabs onto the VS control arms to allow for the adjustable rods to be fitted, but that’s not a major concern.

Have everything I need now, so I’ll be cleaning up and striping everything down tomorrow.

[EJ DUDEParticipant Perth1963 EJ Special View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 39]

Needs dish already, hurry up and order the wheels man!

[KroozerParticipant Forbes, NSW91 VN SS View build HERE Member since: February 19, 2015 Posts: 336]

Doing some serious mods now! And doesn’t need dish needs concave! 

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