VN S – 5l – T5

[Piston 304Participant SAVN 5L, VP Inter. View build HERE Member since: April 29, 2015 Posts: 52]

Car: 1991 VN-S.
Color: Red.
Engine: 5L Manual T5. Extreme Clutch. Vt Alternator Setup. BF Thermo. Alloy Radiator.
Exhaust: Extractors, Single 2.5″ into 3″ after the diff.
Stereo: None
Wheels: 19″ VE SSV. 245/35.
Suspension: s13 Coilovers, Adjuatable tops, VS Lcas, Short caster rods, Custom hubs, Vs rack ends, Nolathane bushes.
Interior: Electric windows, Vp Calais seats/door trims, Black over Blue. VQ Black Dash, VN SS steering wheel, Climate control, Level 3 Dash.
Exterior: VN SS Rear lip, Tint , Letterbox grille, De-Badged, VP garnish and lights.

Parts i have and need to fit:
VN SS front Skirt.
Twin Dump tip.

Plans:

Gilmer kit
New VP tail lights, SV89 Boot lip, New rear bumper
Adjustable Panhard
Rear suspension of some sort
Bigger brakes
Line Locker
Remove Dents/respray
Short Shifter

So this was my first car, 91 VN S, originally V6 Auto, Now 5L Manual.

 

V6

 

V8

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[Piston 304Participant SAVN 5L, VP Inter. View build HERE Member since: April 29, 2015 Posts: 52]

My recent progress is that,

5l Is in. And T5.
Still not on the road though. Here’s some pictures.

Extreme Clutch

T5

VT Alternator Setup

EL Thermos

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Nice project buddy, look forward to more progress shots

[SSEN8R VS #1081Participant Brisbane, North Side\'97 VS II HSV Senator 185i View build HERE Member since: March 16, 2015 Posts: 227]

Nice build!

Can I ask why you went the extreme clutch? Has the motor had work done?

I’ve got a stock 185i and just put in a heavy duty clutch (extra $100 odd over stock) as my previous stock 5+ year old clutch has lasted pretty well (only just started to slip)…

My build thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/vs-ii-senator-185i-1081/
My track day thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/lakeside-track-sprint-day-second-go/
My VS brake upgrade thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/vs-brake-upgrades/

[Piston 304Participant SAVN 5L, VP Inter. View build HERE Member since: April 29, 2015 Posts: 52]

“Apparently” has a crane 286. Not sure how true this is. Any way to tell without taking the cam out?

Went with that clutch to be prepared for anything in the future.

Maybe twin throttle bodies. Different cam etc.

In the small distance I’ve driven it so far the clutch seems pretty easy to drive with.

[NickVRParticipant AdelaideVR V8 Exec, VR SS, VF Redline Reserve View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 264]

As Gary said, nice little project you have there.

[Piston 304Participant SAVN 5L, VP Inter. View build HERE Member since: April 29, 2015 Posts: 52]

Right. I’d like to update my thread more regularly. I miss forums.

Entered a local Driftkhana event. Failed hard, but had fun.

Got my VN running, then found a leaky welch plug. So the engine came out a bit over a  week before the event. welch plugs changed and back in. Bought an r31 skyline for the diff gears, swapped them for some 4.11s, fitted them and a spool the weekend before the event. Running a stock ecu, with a cam. Backfires on decel and stalls when you put the clutch in to slow down.

Took my punishment for 4 hours, with no thermostat and thermos on all the time. so i was happy with that. First time I’ve driven it properly in 3 years or so.

Plans now are to work on the suspension a bit. Organising some Lock hubs and adjustable caster arms from showtime customs. S13 coilovers and adjustable tops. Vs Lcas. Nolathane kit. and it should be pretty set in the front.

I’m not 100 percent sure what to do with the rear yet. stiffer springs, good shocks and a re bush i guess?

[Slow355Participant Victoriahectic spec 355 vs ss ute View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 322]

If its got a crane 286 would definitely be able to tell mate as would have a decent angry idle to it hence quite a popular stout daily cam. Did computer come with the motor?

munch munch ls1s for lunch
Best 1/4 mile 13.1@105mph 60ft-1.8sec Reaction time .8 sec 0/100-4.8sec

[Piston 304Participant SAVN 5L, VP Inter. View build HERE Member since: April 29, 2015 Posts: 52]

I had an ecu that was claimed to be for a 286 + Blue tops + Extractors.

Currently don’t have blue tops. That ecu would barely idle, the IAC was wide open and wouldn’t hold constant revs under 4000rpm it would just surge and after that rev high. Runs a lot better with the stock memcal.

would be good if i could tell what cams in it without removing it. It doesn’t idle real smooth.

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Hey mate just realised your in SA.  Have you got any details of the track event you did, looks like a bit of fun, are you a member of a club or is it open to anyone?  Would love to have a crack in mine for shits and giggles

Btw great to see a car being used like that, as I said looks like a bit of fun

With the rear set up, I assume is live axle?

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[Piston 304Participant SAVN 5L, VP Inter. View build HERE Member since: April 29, 2015 Posts: 52]

Hey, Yeah I’m in SA, Mount Gambier to be exact. A long way from you. but a few guys from Adelaide traveled down for the event.

It’s a motorkhana inspired event, where drifting/smoke is the key. unlike motorkhana.

Ran by South East Motorsport Alliance. https://www.facebook.com/SEMAlliance/?fref=ts

It was the first event of its kind here. So I thought I’d support it. Was great fun. I do need to work on my driving. haha. That event was open to anyone.

$50 for the day. (Entry and AASA license for the day). $30 for passengers.

Future events will be $75 for a Year club membership. $80 for a year AASA license. And $50-$60 per event. They are hoping for 10 events or so a year.  (Don’t quote me on the prices though)

Helmet, Fire extinguisher, Wrist to ankle clothing and basic scrutineering required.

Rear end is live axle. so really limited with what can be adjusted. I Know what i want with the front. But the rear is a mystery.

https://www.facebook.com/joshua.eadie/videos/a.10209792885968456.1073741827.1521045669/10209793000491319/?type=3&theater

 

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Cheers for that, My Gambier is a fair way from there, but a nice place.  My son used to race karts down there.  Sorry cant help with advice on a  live axle set up.

[doz10Participant Qld93 VR SS View build HERE Member since: February 9, 2016 Posts: 125]

A good start for the rear suspension is some adjustable struts and decent springs or if you were keen enough a decent coil over kit to give you a bit of adjustment to play with, but possibly the best thing you could do especially for track days and skidding the old girl is get a whiteline or similar heavy duty front sway bar and just go to the wreckers and get a few different sized rear sway bars I’m pretty sure you can get from 16mm to 20mm stock sway bars, I found in my old Calais the 19mm rear sway was perfect for handling and throwing the old girl around, I had a pedders heavy duty front sway bar and adjustable konis and kings all round on it and it handled very nicely, didn’t hurt having 460rwhp for the throwing it around part though lol

[Piston 304Participant SAVN 5L, VP Inter. View build HERE Member since: April 29, 2015 Posts: 52]

The thing is, I’m yet to find an actual coil over kit. seems nowhere makes them.

Anything I’ve found is custom one off builds.

Sway bars are also on the list of to do’s after coil overs in the front.

 

[doz10Participant Qld93 VR SS View build HERE Member since: February 9, 2016 Posts: 125]

If you can’t find a coil over kit for the rear just go for decent pair of adjustable shocks and springs and rebush everything in superpro that should liven it up with a good sway bar

[Piston 304Participant SAVN 5L, VP Inter. View build HERE Member since: April 29, 2015 Posts: 52]

Rear will come next. haha. just bought some bits for the front.

S13 Coil overs and adjustable tops. VS rack ends. VS lower control arms.

Shortened VS caster arms. Modified VS hubs. Nolathane bushes to suit.this

All will be fitted up this Saturday. I’ll try to remember to take photos.

Will just cut a pair of rear springs to match the front height for now.

Then get a wheel alignment.

Also wont be running a front sway bar for now.

Next event is 27th of august. will see how it goes.

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Pics or it didn’t happen

[[TUFFVQ]Participant Melbourne1991 VQ 304 View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 171]

Piston 304 wrote:

…Also wont be running a front sway bar for now. Next event is 27th of august. will see how it goes…

If you’re expecting it to take any corners remotely well, this won’t help…

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Anyone know if a VR front sway bar fits a VN?  If it does pretty sure I have the original one off my Senator I would happily donate to another forum member

[Piston 304Participant SAVN 5L, VP Inter. View build HERE Member since: April 29, 2015 Posts: 52]

Thanks for the offer. I do have the factory sway bar. Just unsure how to mount it to the coil overs.

And from what i understand, less sway bar in the front compared to rear promotes over steer.

Which is what I’m after. And the coil overs should be generally stiff.

Will see how i go in the morning for time and mounting options.

And will have a look at how many mm my bars are.

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