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  • #11851
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    If it doesn’t run a 9@14x I’ll be disappointed.

     

    What sort of rear wheel hp do you think you will need for those numbers Cav?

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    Shows what it ran at what power levels and mods with lsa… Same tuner too.. Although lighter car

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    I’ll have a near identicle setup to him. Bigger stall and steeper gears.

     

    Slightly smaller cam. Hoping 750hp at the fly. So 420-470rwks

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    What sort of rwhp you think a car like yours (and so mine I guess) needs to get into 10s?

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    See thats where I struggle HP vs torque…..  Is it a simple hp equation

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    In a perfect world weighing 3600lb

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    Depends on what it weighs

    See thats where I struggle HP vs torque….. Is it a simple hp equation

     

    Hp wins races. Not torque

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    Hp wins races. Not torque

    Depends on what exactly you define as “the race”  not everything revolves around a qtr mile ;-)    Two cars same power, one with twice the torque, might theoretically run the same ET with each being geared right, but I know whats more fun.

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    Had a big chat to Justin at Aftermarket Industries. Gave the the low down on exactly what I need to do for the fuel system.

     

    Could quickly tell why his the best of the best at what he does. Very switched on.

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    It’s Julian not Justan lol

     

    and yes he is extremely good at what he does, I would say my sp1200 Serg tank is the best hand built item on my car

     

    the welds are beyond anything Iv ever seen in person, the machining is on a level above what I thought was the highest level and best of all it works and is silent

     

    be great to have more people like him in other fields of cars

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    Julian. Yes that’s him.

    Ill be looking at the twin 460 Walbro SP800 with a Walbro 460 lift pump.

     

    The 800 is cnc’d and a thicker metal which is hard annodiSed inside and out. He is of the belief it should be engineered in the boot without any issue or other mods at all

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    For sure plenty of engineered cars with in boot fuel systems.  Given this is more race orientated build losing boot space isn’t an issue, and the plus side is the systems up where you can see it and trouble shoot it easily if there are any issues.  I love my Bain tank with it all integrated, and it gives me 80L, but it just depends on exactly what you want/prefer.  You going E85 with this, given its boosted would give you big gains I assume?

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    Hey Cav whats your plan with CAI?  If I did mine again I think I would have probably tilted the radiator back a few degrees to give an open space between the rad support panel and the rad to run a cai.  Either that or keep it vertical but move it back 50mm or so.  You thought that far ahead?

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    Most likely a MACE air box with a big fuck off pod. I had the OTR on my VZ and made more power with the pod setup.

     

    Yeah defiently going e85. Good gains to be had with forced induction.

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    HP wins everytime all the time in every situation. Unless your towing a quad full of iron ore…..

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    HP wins everytime all the time in every situation. Unless your towing a quad full of iron ore…..

    I don’t think anybody is saying more HP isn’t better everywhere, but I will take a car with oodles of torque across the entire rev range, over some high revving peaky pos every day of the week if the car is driven on the street.  Its not just pulling tons of iron ore, its having 4 mates in the car and an esky full of piss in the back, going uphill, getting caught in the wrong gear behind some grandma going to church, might as well chuck in more frequent issues and rebuilds with something spinning to 10k vs something doing the same numbers at 7k.

    My point is it’s not HP OR Torque, its having HP AND Torque.

     

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    FI = best of both worlds  :XD:

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    Not sure about that I am making 600+hp, 600 ft-lb of torque, 80% of that at 2k, with an unopened engine and the only thing between my pistons and the air outside are a set of thin throttle blades.  More belts, more pulleys, more parts turning, more to go wrong, heavier, more complex….To each their own, there are many ways to skin a cat B-) Be bloody boring if we all did the same.

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    FI = best of both worlds

    Sure is. Ultimately would have loved to have a turbo, but it was too much cash to get it running and engineered

     

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    FI = best of both worlds

    Sure is. Ultimately would have loved to have a turbo, but it was too much cash to get it running and engineered

     

    You’ve practically chosen an off the shelf 9 second package. Pretty damn good to me.

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