Car care products for rubbing buffing paint

[vs manta 218Participant Vs hsv manta View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 796]

so as most know I’m not one to pay someone to do something for me and having just painted my Monaro earlier this year i got a bit of time to start rubbing and buffing it last week and today

 

Iv done this before to 2 PAC kitchens Iv built and painted, my manta, even done it to polished timber bench tops before and Iv tryed a few different products

 

Some brand I can not remember but was U2B

meguires mirror glaze diamond cut 2.0

meguires fine cut cleaner

formlar 1

and a few others over the years back when I was doin lots of 2 PAC kitchens years ago

 

there all crap and the u2b was by far the best and was what I used on the manta but can not find it anymore

 

Some are so crap I have just mutilated my bonnet and I have to repaint it now using the mcguires diamond cut 2.0 last week

 

So I asked some painters what they thought was best and a lot said juice cutting compound then 3D finishing polish

 

then one guy said he has been using juice cutting compound for long time and a rep just brought in 3D aat rubbing compound and sanded a gaurd with 800 then buffed it and wiped it with prepsol and bam scratches where gone and very very quickly, noticble quicker then juice product and he was astounded at how fast and good it worked

 

so I got online and ordered a 1L (well 940mm or what ever it is) of 3D aat rubbing compound and 3D aat finishing polish coming in at $80 each there not cheap stuff

 

rubbed 2/3 of the car with 2000 and thought well this is goin to take days now and got the 7inch viable speed grinder out and put the wool pad on and started with the roof

 

that 3D rubbing compound is off the charts fucking unreal 4 or 5 dam minutes the roof was 95% done so got the rest of car done like this

 

then fitted a orange foam pad and went over it then washed car and using my orbital polishing machine I went over it half assed with the finishing polish as I lost light

 

obviously tomorrow in good light I will have some touch ups to do with cutting compound

 

I have never ever used a product that fixes paint so fast and easily I spent 3-4 hours and 2 hours of that was sanding and got 70% of car done

 

I spent double this time on just the bonnet using that crap meguires mirror glaze 2.0 only for it to end up burning through clear before it removed scratches

 

anyway 3D aat rubbing compound and finishing polish are off the charts good for paint and I doubt anything that I will get my hands onto will beat it for a while 

[cava454Moderator 93 VR BT1 View build HERE Member since: February 20, 2015 Posts: 2 390]

Any links?

There is a fine art to polishing I’ve learn. Something I don’t pocess.

[vs manta 218Participant Vs hsv manta View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 796]

The top 2 in green bottles

 

just slow and steady really and have to use wool pad first then orange  foam pad and this buffing thing is a new paint job thing, don’t do it to a old factory paint job, it’s purely to remove any orange peel and dust

 

most other cutting compounds have what they call fillers in them and after buffing if you wipe with prepsol it will remove these fillers and the scratches will show up again, washing the car 3 times will also remove the fillers and your stuck in a loop and buffing and washing

 

pretty much any rubbing compounds  and polish  you can get from a shop are crap, they are designed so polishes are easily washed off by the crap wash stuff then you need more polish so your back at the shop buying polish again and buying that same wash and again in a loop of cleaning

 

use the good stuff and can polish and wash and have that bead off water effect for months on end and wash after wash instead of using the crap and washing it twice and then water sites on it and the schamy just smears the water on it

 

fuck cleaning cars, I’m using the good shit and it makes life so much easier, the blue car is lucky to get cleaned 5 times a year and yet always looks clean and the Monaro gets cleaned weekly and is always filthy

 

 

http://detailcentral.com.au/compounds-and-polishes/

[cava454Moderator 93 VR BT1 View build HERE Member since: February 20, 2015 Posts: 2 390]

Cheers. Mine still hasn’t been buffed. It’s still fresh off the gun. 6 years old lol

The guy doing my bay will give it a good polish so she’s A1 again.

[vs manta 218Participant Vs hsv manta View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 796]

Painted by someone who hasn’t worked in the industry for over 10 years in a shed and home made booth and rubbed and buffed by a ape that has only half a idea what he is doin

 

this stuff really is that good, it takes a lot for me to rave on about something that is good

 

this morning I wash it after I hit a few spots that needed fine touch ups and I wiped water off it in about 2 minutes flat, I have never wiped water off a car that quick in my entire life

 

 

[VS 5.0Participant Perth WAVE SSV Z Series M6 View build HERE Member since: March 31, 2015 Posts: 118]

After going to all that effort, don’t use a shamy. to dry the car.

Far better off with a microfibre drying cloth to avoid any marring of the paint.

[Dan811Participant SE Melbourne02 Monaro M6 LS1 View build HERE Member since: March 4, 2015 Posts: 124]

VS 5.0 wrote:

After going to all that effort, don’t use a shamy. to dry the car. Far better off with a microfibre drying cloth to avoid any marring of the paint.

^^^ THIS!

have a look at AMMO NYC and Larry Kosilla’s videos on youtube, he’s one of the top car detailers full stop. I’ve got terribly soft red paint on the monaro and couldn’t work out why there were always tiny hairline scratches on it all the time. I only realised after watching a couple of his videos that I was actually causing them because of the way I washed and dried my car.

Also definitely going to try the 3D products, i’m not entirely happy with the meguiars stuff at the moment. It’s not bad, just not great for my application.

[cava454Moderator 93 VR BT1 View build HERE Member since: February 20, 2015 Posts: 2 390]

So you guys actaully wash your cars? 

[Slow355Participant Victoriahectic spec 355 vs ss ute View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 322]

Yea dont use a shamy, always use a cloth or be like me and befriend a panel beater and never worry about how to buff a car etc. Its a fine art not something to practise on your 15k paint job lads

All i do is wash with soapy water and maybe a mothers wax sometimes

 

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[vs manta 218Participant Vs hsv manta View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 796]

Ok looks like I’m throwing my shammy away then and drying with a cloth, shammys suck ass anyway

 

your  paint on ute come up mint man

 

yeah dan throw your mcguires in the bin and get some 3D for sure

 

also slow 355 I have 2 mates one a painter and one a panel beater and both are willing to show me how to buff but when I ask if they will do it they just laugh and say yeah right and walk away

 

assholes lol

 

 

[Dan811Participant SE Melbourne02 Monaro M6 LS1 View build HERE Member since: March 4, 2015 Posts: 124]

Its a fine art for sure, but if you’re willing to put the time in and find the right combo for your paint, it’s worth it (depending on how anal you are)

it’s also not cheap, finding the right tools and buffing/cutting pads takes time, learning how to wash the pads properly takes time, learning how to constantly flush residue off the pads as you’re using them takes time.

I really recommend watching the ammo nyc videos, they helped me understand what the pads/products are actually doing and why they all produce slightly different results.

Now, I only polish once/twice a year, and apply wax every 3-4 washes. And after having done it a few times, you learn how to do it quickly and safely too. Washing is also heaps quicker because having a layer of wax on means the dirt/water doesn’t stick to your paint, it comes off nice and easy.

[Slow355Participant Victoriahectic spec 355 vs ss ute View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 322]

vs manta 218 wrote:

Ok looks like I’m throwing my shammy away then and drying with a cloth, shammys suck ass anyway your paint on ute come up mint man yeah dan throw your mcguires in the bin and get some 3D for sure also slow 355 I have 2 mates one a painter and one a panel beater and both are willing to show me how to buff but when I ask if they will do it they just laugh and say yeah right and walk away assholes lol

 

Hahah my guy is the same but when i threaten to let someone else touch it he does it haha. Its an all day job when done right, when i clay bared my car that took ages in itself. Each to their own, ill wash and wax but not cut.

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