VS Brake Upgrades

[Phire aka GmfanParticipant VictoriaVT LS1 Wagon View build HERE Member since: March 3, 2015 Posts: 105]

Good info about the handbrake rings but bit of a hassle cutting rotors up to get ring back out. Better off doing proper upgrade so no need for the rings.

[SSEN8R VS #1081Participant Brisbane, North Side\'97 VS II HSV Senator 185i View build HERE Member since: March 16, 2015 Posts: 227]

yeah that was my thoughts in the end to Phire. May just see how much a mechanic will cost to change to VT handbrake following Gary’s instructions.

My build thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/vs-ii-senator-185i-1081/
My track day thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/lakeside-track-sprint-day-second-go/
My VS brake upgrade thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/vs-brake-upgrades/

[SSEN8R VS #1081Participant Brisbane, North Side\'97 VS II HSV Senator 185i View build HERE Member since: March 16, 2015 Posts: 227]

I could just purchase the calipers and brackets through UPC.

My build thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/vs-ii-senator-185i-1081/
My track day thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/lakeside-track-sprint-day-second-go/
My VS brake upgrade thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/vs-brake-upgrades/

[cava454Moderator 93 VR BT1 View build HERE Member since: February 20, 2015 Posts: 2 390]

SSEN8R VS #1081 wrote:

I could just purchase the calipers and brackets through UPC.

just buy mine 👍

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

SSEN8R VS #1081 wrote:

yeah that was my thoughts in the end to Phire. May just see how much a mechanic will cost to change to VT handbrake following Gary’s instructions.

It could be easier too, I wanted to totally disassemble the rear suspension, replace everything and powder coat it, you may be able to do the swap over quicker if your not doing all that

[SSEN8R VS #1081Participant Brisbane, North Side\'97 VS II HSV Senator 185i View build HERE Member since: March 16, 2015 Posts: 227]

i’m after rear brakes Cava. stock 279mm solid rotors just aint working for me on the track.

My build thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/vs-ii-senator-185i-1081/
My track day thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/lakeside-track-sprint-day-second-go/
My VS brake upgrade thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/vs-brake-upgrades/

[Phire aka GmfanParticipant VictoriaVT LS1 Wagon View build HERE Member since: March 3, 2015 Posts: 105]

You still running the ns400 pads up front? How are you finding the pad/rotor life so far? Now that my adapter brackets are useless and muppet lost one of my calipers I’ll be looking for new pads. Tossng up between the ns400 or the hc800 mu pads. If i don’t need the higher heat range I’d prefer to maintain more rotor life with the ns400

[SSEN8R VS #1081Participant Brisbane, North Side\'97 VS II HSV Senator 185i View build HERE Member since: March 16, 2015 Posts: 227]

running NS400 pads on rear, unsure to recommend them or not, but don’t have anything bad to say about em…. bought a house so haven’t been at the track since early dec. will fire up for a track day soon.

My build thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/vs-ii-senator-185i-1081/
My track day thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/lakeside-track-sprint-day-second-go/
My VS brake upgrade thread - http://www.commodoresplus.com.au/forums/topic/vs-brake-upgrades/

[thatotherguy94Participant VS Acclaim, VZ SSZ Ute View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 189]

Has anyone had any experience with the UPC kits off ebay, or am I better off staying away from them?
Im looking at getting something similar to this, thanks

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PK1-COMMODORE-FITS-VB-TO-VZ-BIG-BRAKE-KIT-HSV-SIZE-PBR-330-MM-TWIN-PISTON-PBR-/311211193707?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item4875a1f56b

[cava454Moderator 93 VR BT1 View build HERE Member since: February 20, 2015 Posts: 2 390]

I have there 343mm kit. I’m happy with it. Could do with better pads tho.

However the owner is doopey mother fucker and I hope he chokes on a chicken bone

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[HDN05LParticipant Canberra ACTVS Olympic Edt 383 stroker Ute View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 289]

cava454 wrote:

I have there 343mm kit. I’m happy with it. Could do with better pads tho. However the owner is doopey mother fucker and I hope he chokes on a chicken bone

Took the words out of my mouth Cav, i bought the 298mm kit and had to chase them for 2 weeks and still got the wrong parts. That being said once it was all fixed they are good value.

Yet somehow he is still in business 

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Gotta say my Willwoods were perfect.  Easy to deal with, no hassles, awesome brakes.

[thatotherguy94Participant VS Acclaim, VZ SSZ Ute View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 189]

 

cava454 wrote:

I have there 343mm kit. I’m happy with it. Could do with better pads tho. However the owner is doopey mother fucker and I hope he chokes on a chicken bone

Took the words out of my mouth Cav, i bought the 298mm kit and had to chase them for 2 weeks and still got the wrong parts. That being said once it was all fixed they are good value. Yet somehow he is still in business [/quote]

Thats good to know…

VRSenator065 wrote:

Gotta say my Willwoods were perfect. Easy to deal with, no hassles, awesome brakes.

I think willwoods would be a bit overkill for my car haha

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

thatotherguy94 wrote:

I think willwoods would be a bit overkill for my car haha

Yea I admit I do have a bias towards overkill

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

I’m with you Gary over kill on brakes is a good thing the six pots I had on the vk were killer especially when I had the race pads in ,, warm them up and make sure your seat belt was on only down side they squealed on the slow stopping

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Yea mine squeal like a boss at walking speed, its very annoying but then I know the flip side is they are awesome stopping.  It is a good feeling knowing you have great stopping power.  My 911 will put you through the windscreen if you stand on the brakes, so unfortunately I am a bit spoilt in that I expect it of anything I drive.

[exec24Participant 2004 VY S2 Berlina 1996 VS 5L Sedan View build HERE Member since: April 8, 2015 Posts: 435]

Ive just got a VT-VY 296mm front setup my VS

Front calipers were second hand out of a pretty low k car, and the rear is live axle so i was pretty limited there with options so i had the stock size rear calipers recondition

i fitted DBA Slotted front Rotors- the VS upgrade ones so there is no spacer needed for the hub, Bendix General CT pads front and rear and braided hoses instead of the standard rubber ones, also front and rear which included the rear one that runs between the diff assembly and the car itself

that setup works well for day to day driving, the only thing im thinking of doing is a VT-VY Brake booster and master cylinder upgrade

[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

I always disliked the standard brake pedal on the VS models, VT style booster/MC helps to firm it up and reduce travel.

I’m putting the same combo as above on my VS senator but using QFM pads and going to fit the VS GTS vented rear rotor with matching caliper.

[Wiv1Participant W.Avs 96 clubsport - manual - cherry black View build HERE Member since: July 15, 2016 Posts: 6]

Have recently had willwoods fitted to my VS Clubby with the vt hand brake upgrade, have the low speed squeal issue, can’t fault the look or performance of the brakes though

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[Wiv1Participant W.Avs 96 clubsport - manual - cherry black View build HERE Member since: July 15, 2016 Posts: 6]

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